It is so difficult to find modern electronics without telemetry and ads. Smartphones, laptops, TVs, home routers, security cameras, cars, game consoles, e-readers, projectors, 3D printers, fitness trackers, speakers, and even some printers. Why can’t customers be free from this data collection and advertising? It’s not that we don’t care about it. There simply aren’t many alternatives, and the few that do exist are either more expensive or offer fewer features. Seriously, we need a list of products we can buy and use directly without worrying about telemetry or advertising.
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- Laptop: Framework Laptop, System76, MNT
- Anything else that doesn’t come with ads or telemetry built in?


Cars: Anything released without wifi/calling. I dont think any modern electric predates this, but you can convert diesels to friendlier oils or most engines to a run off wood. As a bonus higher trim older cars used a lot less plastic
Smartwatch: Pinetime
3D printers: id like to add Sovol, not sure about their more recent ones but their older ones either didnt have wifi or run regular klipper. The SV06/SV06 ACE are also entirelly open source except for the GUI, but you can install other klipper GUIs (theres also a repo with steps to build a minimal Debian install instead of relying on sovols firmware updates)
Routers: GL.iNET Use a modified OpenWRT install out of the box but can be flashed to vanilla OpenWRT through the GUI
The Slate EV doesn’t have any telemetry.
Is it shipping yet? Looks US-only.
No, they are supposed to start delivering then later this year.
You can preorder in the UK
The Slate EV also doesn’t actually exist yet.
Maybe snapmaker u1? I think their firmware is open source and if it goes the direction of bambu people are already able to run custom firmware, and printer functions fine completely offline.
Opnsense is a great router/firewall. OpenWRT is fine for WiFi APs.
OpenWRT is also quite capable firewall. It’s a full fledged router software after all.
Opnsense is also that, and more. Compare the list of its packages with OpenWRT. Plus, it’s BSD based.
Opnsense can’t do wi-fi as far as I know, so its more like firewall/managed switch rather than router, isn’t it?
Smart watch:
ZsWatch. They are developing the PPG sensor and I have used their PPG sensor hub driver for my own smart watch project. The guy heading it up is super knowledgable.
Healthy Pi Move this one seems interesting but maybe less open.
Also with GadgerBridge, you can have complete local control of many smart watches like Amazfit (Helio strap is my choice there for accuracy and whoop alternative. Bip3 is also very accurate) and a lot of Garmins and xiaomi.
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