

breitbart is 1) not a reliable source and; 2) should not be taken seriously on any kind of reporting of this nature
internet gryphon. admin of Beehaw, mostly publicly interacting with people. nonbinary. they/she


breitbart is 1) not a reliable source and; 2) should not be taken seriously on any kind of reporting of this nature


I do not support the overall goal of beehaw, though that is not related to the content of what I posted above.
i mean this respectfully but… why would you use a place you don’t support the overall goal of? from my perspective all of this just seems like a waste of your time, because you could just be putting all the energy you have in this thread behind a community you actually support


Beehaw’s defederation purpose is very clear, and they didn’t start the drama. The mods of Beehaw started it as a safe space for minorities and marginalized communities, which is why you have to apply for an account there in the first place.
also just to hop in here and underscore a really important point: THE DRAMA IS LITERALLY ALL USERS BEING WEIRD ABOUT THIS. NOBODY ON THE ADMIN SIDE CARES. WE ARE LITERALLY COORDINATING WITH THE PEOPLE WE DEFEDERATED WITH (and a bunch of other folks) TO MAKE THE PLATFORM BETTER SO WE DON’T EVEN HAVE TO DO THIS. THERE IS NO ENMITY BETWEEN US AT ALL. this is so fucking weird to watch play out, because it’s all people getting mad on behalf of their instances when everybody behind the scenes is chill and understands!


By not being prepared for it. It was setup with default communities, like technology for example (correct me if I’m wrong), but no plan to deal with those with moderation capabilities and levels that reach their own standard.
i mean… yeah? it’s not every day you suddenly have 5x the number of total users on your site visiting the site per minute because a major corporation just did something extremely unpopular with no forewarning. if we had that kind of clairvoyance, i’d be a millionaire and running this site would just be my full-time job. this strikes me as an irrational critique informed by the hindsight you have now, weeks after it began.
Somehow lemmy.world and others can deal with it without defederating others so that’s where I’ll go.
this is primarily because they have more permissive rules and no defined ethos they’re trying to upkeep—or at least, they don’t have the latter in a way that requires constant maintenance. (as a point of note last i checked, lemmy.world didn’t even have listed rules, per se,[1] so it’d be hard to parse what’s even not allowed as a user besides “actively illegal content”) we, by contrast, have a very clear idea of what we want—we spent a year thinking about it, and we’re at a year and a half of making it reality—so defederation in the absence of better mod tools is an extremely obvious way to maintain that. actually it’s the only tool we have in a lot of cases, which is a gripe we have with Lemmy that we’re trying to solve
although Ruud has told us he’ll moderate hate speech, bigotry, etc. from the top, so implicitly those aren’t supposed to be allowed. i question how viable doing this is with such an open-registration policy, more-or-less unvetted mods, and lots of communities to keep track of but i suppose all instances here can be thought of as large-scale experiments right now ↩︎
Or in this case, it is an ego driven crybaby fest because someone got jealous other instances got big.
i don’t see how this would logically follow—wouldn’t our course of action if we wanted this to be something like opening registrations? we very much don’t have a shortage of people clamoring to get in here—our backlog is 4,500—and if anything we’re worried about too many people, not too few. we simply have no interest in growth at all costs, and we were… honestly pretty fine with being a 700-user instance before the big blowup here. certainly it’d have been less stressful, lol


yeah this is like everything on our defederation list besides lemmygrad, shitjustworks, and lemmyworld–we’re literally using a block list which is dedicated to those kinds of instances


FYI i think lemmy did the “switch a post out from under you” bug
obviously it’s a bit chaotic because anyone can input stuff and i’m not sure how curated the output is, but i like to just surf the “read a message” button. here’s one i just got:
dear reader,
you might not understand now. you might not believe, or trust it now. but i do. i trust that this message finds the right people. if you are seeing this it’s because you were supposed to. this is your message:
remember that you aren’t alone in this world and that they might not be in your life currently but there are people who care about you so keep on going (;
P.S. i love you more than you could ever imagine <3333 keep doing ya thang luv


privately, i’ve kind of wondered whether Reddit does even care if all of its subreddits are moderated horribly, and if it doesn’t whether that renders anything short of taking your ball and going home moot


this is a great interview with Christian, fyi, for people who haven’t seen it yet


brief site downtime (had to fix something), we’re back




ahhh i hate to do this because this is close to taking off but we just cycled the megathread lol. if you could repost it over here that would be much appreciated. thanks and sorry for the brief headache here!
yeah, Low Tech Magazine doesn’t post frequently but when it does all articles are fascinating and must-reads.


yes. you can donate here


yeah we hung with the flood of topics about this for a bit but it’s not super tenable (or desirable) on our end for every second post on our front page to be about reddit, lol


mass adoption? i doubt it. but it definitely feels like it’s already being taken more seriously than, say, Google Glass was back when. also, if any company was going to break through the stigma (for lack a better word) associated with devices like this, Apple would be one of the first on my list.


this is a weird, very uncomfortable post. why are we doing this? please do not do this on here.
yeah like. this is just a byproduct of how federation works currently. i don’t even know how you’d begin to design a federated system where some of these critiques can’t be levied